Godzilla vs. Kong (2021)

Two giant icons enter the ring, and the internet instantly turns into a tribal debate: giant lizard or big monkey. We’re Project Geekology, and we go deep on Godzilla vs. Kong (2021) with the exact mix this movie deserves: hype for the Titan fights, genuine appreciation for the best MonsterVerse worldbuilding, and zero fear of calling out the plot when it gets wobbly.

We talk about why this film lands better for us than Godzilla: King of the Monsters, how the franchise keeps rotating its human cast like a baton pass, and why that choice creates a real continuity problem for Millie Bobby Brown’s character. Then we get into the good stuff: Kong’s unreal CGI and facial performance, the boat and Antarctica sequences that look shockingly tactile, and the debate over Gia, American Sign Language, and how believable it is that Kong understands as much as he does.

From there, we follow the breadcrumbs into Apex, “bad vibrations,” and Godzilla’s rampage logic, then zoom out to the biggest MonsterVerse keyword of them all: Hollow Earth. We break down what the movie explains, what it skips, and why that hidden realm becomes the storytelling engine for everything that comes next. And yes, we give Mechagodzilla his flowers, because a mechanical Titan powered by Ghidorah’s leftovers is exactly the kind of sci-fi nonsense we can’t resist.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:00

Welcome back to Project Geekology. This is episode 165. Today we have a giant lizard fighting a gigantic monkey. Who do we vote for, guys? Giant lizard or big monkey? Uh that's that's the question of the day. We're covering Godzilla vs. Kong for episode 165 of Project Geekology. I am one fourth of your hosts, Dakota, and I'm joined as always with A giant metal lizard.

SPEAKER_00 0:28

I just popped in and you weren't expecting it. But this is Anthony, and I'm gonna pop out to throw it over to one of our other hosts.

SPEAKER_03 0:37

Rich, a low-level Apex employee who's ready to just uncover the biggest scandal you guys have ever seen. Maybe some would say Titan sized, but we can't do it alone. We're also joined by Hi, I'm Jen, and I like Godzilla.

SPEAKER_01 0:53

Big fan of his work.

SPEAKER_02 0:55

Big fan of the big lizard. Yeah, guys, we're covering Godzilla vs. Kong, the I believe it was 2021 film that really, you know, it separated the internet for a little bit because a lot of people were giant lizard, some people were big monkey. And that was a really fun time on Twitter where just people devolved into like caveman speech, talking about who they uh wanted to see when. And ultimately, well, we'll talk about it. We'll we'll definitely get into who is the king of the monsters, um, or at least these two, or three, as Anthony reminded us. But uh before we jump into any of that, let's briefly talk a little bit about what we've been up to this past week. I don't have a whole lot to add to the discussion this week, personally, just because I'm still dealing with the fallout of my like YouTube situation. I really haven't gotten any every now and then they'll send me a positive email saying, like, alright, you gotta fill out this survey just to see if we can recover it. And then they'll be like, uh, sorry, we can't verify it was you, and then I have to do it all over again. So I'm just kind of going back and forth with YouTube at the moment, and it's a little stressful. But I'm just enjoying my uh Dungeon Crawler Carl series. I'm on book six now, and yeah, I'm having a good time. Uh what about you, Jen?

SPEAKER_01 2:19

I watched Monsters Inc. the other day.

SPEAKER_02 2:21

Tell me about that.

SPEAKER_01 2:22

It's a classic. Loved every second of it. And yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:26

First time?

SPEAKER_01 2:27

No, probably somewhere in the hundreds. Somewhere in the hundreds. It's a it's a comfort film for me. So I was doing some work and I was like, let me throw on Monsters Inc. Rich was there because we were in our place of work. Because I can't focus on just greeting on my off period. So if Monsters Inc. is in the background, I hear all my fun little noises that I'm happy. Like, okay, so there's this one lady, like I was like talking about this the other day, where she's like explaining something that goes wrong, and then she goes, Because and like that's one of the sound bites. Like, as soon as I hear that, I'm like, okay. Like I feel so good. It's like she's like a very minor character and she's just like explaining something at the beginning of the movie.

SPEAKER_02 3:11

You're like an alcoholic who hears like ice in a glass clink, you know, like that it just like soothes you for some reason. It's just all my favorite Disney and Pixar movies. Yeah, I guess I guess that's the case. Anthony, let's throw it over to you. What have you been up to?

SPEAKER_00 3:24

Well, real real quick, you did say that that this movie was a bit divisive, you know. I don't think we've seen a divided internet like that since uh Edward and Jacob.

SPEAKER_02 3:38

How could I forget?

SPEAKER_00 3:40

But uh yeah, I haven't there there hasn't been uh too much going on. There was a good bit of video games that were announced recently. Um we have uh we got a little bit more, not too much more, just a little bit more of like a tech demo of Kingdom Hearts 4. There is um Ocarina of Time, the remake that's coming out. Bunch of persona stuff, man. You know I'm excited about that. Just a bunch of like a bunch of games I can't think of. Like another Onimusha, and I'm pretty stoked about that. Dakota has got us uh all down the the path of Dungeon Crawler 3. He's got us reading the filth. Just kidding. It's pretty good, but like for those of you that have read it, you know, you know there's some insane stuff that that is said in that book. Um I'm not too far yet. Um as of recording, I'm I'm on chapter 10, so I know that I I have a good ways to go in the first book, but it's been good so far. I've been enjoying it. But yeah, how about you, Rich?

SPEAKER_03 4:48

Wow. Looks like I got 15 minutes to fill. Here we go. Uh no. Um so I guess uh the biggest stuff, uh, one, my PS5 was sounding like a uh like a jet propeller taking off. So I love that sound.

SPEAKER_00 5:04

It needs to be cleaned.

SPEAKER_03 5:05

Yeah, I was gonna go take it to U U Break We Fix the where I normally go to get my stuff serviced, but the local one is closed down, and there's another one that's not terribly far, but I don't like that I don't know the uh the guys who work there. Because one time I did go to get my fan fixed for my PS4, and they actually couldn't get the sound to go down, so they didn't charge me, but they had cleaned the whole unit. So I uh I ended up trying it myself. I looked it up online and it said it's a pretty easy process, so I took the fan out. Apparently what happened was there was so much dust that when I took everything out, I actually pushed some of the dust and clogged another set of vents to the the hardware, the the hard disk. Uh so it was kind of auto-powering down, like it wasn't even giving me a warning, it was just turning off. So I ended up having to take my uh vacuum cleaner and an attachment that I usually use for the dryer, and I I fixed my PS5. It's crazy with a vacuum cleaner.

SPEAKER_02 6:05

I like that your com I like that your PS5 was just like, yeah, no, I mean several times.

SPEAKER_03 6:11

The nice thing is is I I you know I won't lie, I haven't it is now it's been I think it has been nine months since I've had a cigarette as of yesterday. So my system is in a much better place as well. So uh I you know looking at the gunk in the system made me uh I guess reminded me, hey, it's probably good.

SPEAKER_01 6:31

So your PS5 is also nine months off of cigarettes.

SPEAKER_03 6:35

Yeah, yeah, it is. Oh congrats. Its lungs are its lungs were bad. Its lungs were bad. And then uh I guess the other exciting bit of news that I've got is I got in the mail today uh a childhood dream. I got a pair of seats from S Shea Stadium. My f the first time the first ballpark I ever saw a baseball game. I bought two seats from the upper deck. I uh they came in the mail today and I assembled them. I won't lie, they're not the most comfortable or sturdy because they're not bolted into concrete in my house, obviously. So that does impact, you know, they're more of a decoration piece, but uh live in the dream, guys. You know, I just want you to know, ladies and gentlemen, set your set goals in your lives, okay? I said I want to eat a hundred hot dogs in a year. You know what I did last year? I did that. Alright? And I said, I want to get these seats. And I did that, and I just feel accomplished. But not as accomplished as Kong must have felt when he sat down in his mother effing throne and claimed his title as King of the Titans! Because there was a throne there cut for him. There wasn't one for Godzilla. There's not one that has a hole for his his stupid tails go in. No, it's Kong's throne, baby.

SPEAKER_01 7:50

I can't believe he just called his tail stupid, where he he like uses it so well. And you know it. I know. You know that. His tail is extremely useful.

SPEAKER_03 7:58

I'm getting a little hopped up, guys. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_01 8:00

I really just has like a little nub of a tail that doesn't really do much. Godzilla uses that though.

SPEAKER_02 8:05

I do think this is a good segue into our topic of discussion for today. Godzilla vs. Kong is a fun movie with a little with a lot of stupidity, you know, like it kind of follows in the same vein of King of the Monsters, where like the human characters are kind of just present, but like the actual story with the monsters is pretty engaging. But I can't help but find the characters endearing. And I realized something today that's pretty interesting is that for the modern day monster verse movies, starting, you know, not including the Kong Skull Island, you have in Godzilla, you have Sarazawa and Vivian Graham, they go over into Godzilla King of the Monsters, and from there you have Emma Russell and her father, Mark Russell, who go over into Godzilla vs. Kong. And from this third movie in the modern era, you you go into Godzilla vs. Kong, the New Empire, with who is it? It's uh Gia and I think it's Irene.

SPEAKER_01 9:16

Yeah, Irene Adler.

SPEAKER_02 9:17

Irene Adler, yeah. They jump she jumps into the next film in the series. So like it's almost like they're passing the torch onto different human characters, and I think that that's a kind of fun little treat that they have been doing. So I don't know. I thought that was an interesting thing. Anthony, you have uh a giant mechanical lizard behind you in the superimposed wallpaper. You mean Robot Godzilla? Is it Robot Godzilla? Or is there another name? Tell us a little bit about uh your background.

SPEAKER_00 9:49

Oh yeah, the background is like from It's from like the old Godzilla movie. Um I think this one was like actually Godzilla versus Mecha Godzilla.

SPEAKER_02 10:01

Yeah, I believe it is.

SPEAKER_00 10:02

And yeah, this movie I remember when when they were like announcing the movie and the trailers were coming out and um Mecha Godzilla was like you know being teased like in in it, and I was like, oh what? The I mean Mecha Godzilla in this one was pretty cool. I do like the old one a lot more because it he had a lot more like kind of gadgets going on, like he had like missiles and stuff, but it was cool seeing a Mecha Godzilla in this, and I think that um what kind of takes me out of it is the kind of non-verbal communication between um like Godzilla and Kong, especially like during this, you know, where they kind of like team up, it's like it kind of loses me a little bit, you know.

SPEAKER_01 10:55

I I really Yeah, I actually was thinking the opposite.

SPEAKER_00 10:59

No, it because it's like very unrealistic. Um and I'm actually surprised that didn't take you out of the way. Because you were it was it Dakota, you're like pretty big when it comes to things like making sense. And I feel like the so what c made a little sense for me a little or a little bit more sense to me was Godzilla kind of like backing off of like Kong, like when he like realized and like they kind of that like it it does make sense that like animals can kind of form like a mutual respect, like hey, you stay over there, I stay over here, where they kind of set like the hollow earth and like the you know surface kind of like dynamic.

SPEAKER_02 11:39

But that's pretty much the ascent like the totality of them like communicating. It wasn't like anything like deep, like they weren't going out for a coffee and drinks later. We don't know that.

SPEAKER_00 11:49

Come on, like let's be real, like the there the like oh you know, especially like when the girl was like talking like you know, to like Kong and stuff like Kong would Kong is smart, but like the fact that like he was able to understand enough to like not just like go after both Godzilla and uh Mecha Godzilla, you know, like I don't know, like it is interesting how much American Sign Language he knew.

SPEAKER_01 12:19

Yeah, I actually thought that as well. One thing that kind of stood out to me was that she used the word maybe or might, that's what it was. Like you might have family there, or you maybe will have family.

SPEAKER_03 12:30

And did you know did you notice what the symbol for that was?

SPEAKER_01 12:33

Oh no.

SPEAKER_03 12:34

Maybe the I'm pretty sure that I learned American Sign Language, and that maybe is basically the six seven hand gesture. I think if you Google it, you could because that's what she did it twice. I watched her. She's like, might have family down. Like she started with the six seven.

SPEAKER_02 12:50

She's well there you have it, folks. Alright. But I will use her uh remote.

SPEAKER_00 12:54

I will say that like I will say that that I did enjoy this a little bit more than King of the Monsters, just because like the overall story on that one and like the reasoning for like releasing the Titans was kind of just not, you know, I guess airtight. But um you know, like releasing the Titans to to save the world, like they're gonna destroy the game.

SPEAKER_02 13:19

Yeah, that didn't make any sense. We can all agree that that didn't make any sense. But what I what I will say as to your point about like how much now are you more um because I think we are more skeptical about how much Kong was able to communicate with Gia, more so than he was able to communicate with Godzilla. Are you more on like he it makes less sense for him to be able to communicate with another giant Titan?

SPEAKER_00 13:50

I feel like it I like I'm skeptical of the communication overall and like the ability for them to like team up. All of a sudden Godzilla is hitting Kong's axe with his atomic breath so that he can fight that like stuff like that.

SPEAKER_02 14:09

It is cool and it's almost like a level stuff.

SPEAKER_00 14:12

I'm gonna be honest with you, it's cool. The fight is awesome. Like I love the fight, but like in terms of stuff like that, like that making sense.

SPEAKER_02 14:20

But it makes sense, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:21

You know, like Mike, I got you. And I feel like like you got a lot of dynamics like that, but I will say that like the kind of mutual respect, like, okay, like I see, like there there is a way for like beings that are not really, you know, verbal to kind of recognize and respect strength, and I get that. You know, it's just stuff like that, like the weird teaming up dynamic. I'm like, hmm, that doesn't really make sense, but it looks cool.

SPEAKER_02 14:48

So for me, for me, I think the previous film, Ging of the Monsters, did a pretty good job of exploring that dynamic of monsters being able to communicate with each other even from great distances, and being able to define hierarchies based on who wins battles or who just sounds the lar the loudest, you know. Like we saw that back and forth with Ghidorah and Godzilla a lot in the last one. But I get your point. I still don't have that particular issue.

SPEAKER_01 15:19

I do think that Kong considering Irene didn't even know that Gia and him were communicating?

SPEAKER_02 15:28

Yeah, that Gia and and him were able to like that he was able to communicate and like know like multiple words outside of you know, she didn't even know that he was able to like do the the home symbol to to Gia. Considering that it's hard for me to believe that he somehow is able to fully communicate cross-language to this tiny little guy. But anyway.

SPEAKER_01 15:51

I also see like what Anthony's saying where which I hadn't thought about this one watching at all. But like like Godzilla and Conger are just two completely different species. So it's kind of like cats and dogs aren't super good at understanding each other. Isn't it like dogs can understand that humans are separate, but cats kind of view you as just like a larger hairless cat? So that's why cats get frustrated when you don't understand like cat social cues.

SPEAKER_02 16:17

I that's what I've heard, but who really knows? Like, how well do we understand what cats are?

SPEAKER_01 16:22

Well, why don't we get our cat on the pod? Ask him a few questions.

SPEAKER_00 16:25

I'll get started with it. Yeah. Godzilla's always been like that being where like he doesn't really care, he doesn't care about humans, you know, like but he's not gonna go out of his way to like kill humans, but like he'll go after something that that could be Trump, you know, going on his territory, and if people are there, then you're there and you're gonna die, you know.

SPEAKER_02 16:50

That's your problem, not his.

SPEAKER_00 16:52

Pretty much, pretty much, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 16:53

Now I want to direct the conversation to Rich a little bit because I am surprised you are just now getting into these movies considering how well they are basically just like big budget wrestling movies.

SPEAKER_00 17:10

Especially the older ones, dude. Especially the older ones.

SPEAKER_03 17:13

Okay, so I haven't seen any of the old ones. Uh it's interesting you say wrestling because when Anthony was talking about how he didn't like the communication between Kong and Godzilla, it kind of reminded me like old-time wrestlers who didn't rehearse. Like they just went out there and like kind of like just threw themselves and like would just piece the match together based on like looking at each other the right way. Uh and uh that that's kind of how I read this. Look, I'm not going to lie to you, I don't have, I don't think, any issue with this movie. There was a moment where I said, How did Kong learn that much sign language? And I said, You know what? He's a Titan. Who cares? That's one smart monkey. I I I literally was just like, I don't care. I love Kong. I love him.

SPEAKER_01 18:00

That's fair.

SPEAKER_03 18:01

Uh when he showed me that he was.

SPEAKER_01 18:03

Rich is like the king of bias. If he can get something to be biased about, that's the epic.

SPEAKER_03 18:08

I I love Hugh just I can't get enough of Kong. I'm I'm not gonna lie to you. Cannot get enough of his story. He says so much without saying much at all. Alright. I just find him to be mesmerizing. The people in this movie are deliciously caricatures. Uh I just love them, right? The uh the impetuous teenager who gets herself into trouble, you know, and the parent has to be worried. The Bernie, the eccentric guy, and all he is is really just eccentric. But oh wait, he's got one backstory. His wife died, so he brings some whiskey. Such a weird little fact. It's like reading like Tim O'Brien's The Things They Carried, and just like, and what did he carry? He carried a holster of whiskey because his wife died, and then he was a nom. Uh, so I love that. I love the just absurdly rude hot chick, right? Like she's like, what is she? Maya. Maya, right? Amazing, right? Like she's just a jerk at every turn for no reason. And it's almost like in every line in the subtitle, it could just be like, I'm hot, right? Like that's all she is, right? And like, but like she's you know, she's so rude that she's not attractive by the end, you know, like blah blah blah. I I love all the tired tropes. I love I I there's honestly, I don't know what I don't like. What my wife walked in while I was watching the scene the where Kong has come back up to the top, you know, to the surface, and they're wrestling they're wrestling, they're fighting, and that's Hong Kong, I think.

SPEAKER_02 19:46

And she's like they are in Hong Kong. Uh I think Shanghai.

SPEAKER_03 19:50

She's like, that looks terrible. No, Hong Kong. That doesn't look like a city. And I went, who cares? I'm like, it's in Asia. Maybe it does look like a city. Have you been there? I'm like, I haven't, so I buy it. I don't know why I'm so forgiving of this series.

SPEAKER_02 20:02

That is actually what that city looks like.

SPEAKER_03 20:04

It is. Alright, great. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:06

They they use actual Yeah, that's what Hong Kong looks like.

SPEAKER_03 20:09

So see?

SPEAKER_02 20:09

They use like actual replicas of the case.

SPEAKER_01 20:11

You don't watch vlogs of people visiting Asia for the spiritual?

SPEAKER_03 20:15

I just thought I saw Lost Translation, that's about it. So it's the only thing I got. And they didn't have any buildings like that. But oh honestly, like I like that this movie has like it really has like a three parts to it. You know, it's it's the getting of Kong and the convincing of like the idea, then it's you know, getting to Hollow Earth, uh, and and then kind of the resolution with uh the the end where you have the mecha show up. I I love the mecha. I I love the guy who's the big bad guy. He was in uh like weeds, he was like the biggest like narco-trafficante ever.

SPEAKER_01 20:49

That guy reminded me of the Dosekis commercials. Yeah, he is basically interesting man.

SPEAKER_03 20:54

He plays that in this show Weeds as the like the head of the cartel, and he's like the most interesting you know man. I thought the casting was great. I I I honestly think the visuals are great. They do an amazing job with Kong's face. The way he learns, right? Like when the rocks are all floating and he goes, huh, huh, huh? Yeah, that that is a good scene. And he parses it together, and like I realize that like I sincerely believe that the way they depict Kong, like the CGI they did, it he feels like and I think this is why I like him better than Godzilla, and this is just like basic what is it called? The anatomy of the two, right? You can see more expression in Kong than you can through Godzilla.

SPEAKER_02 21:42

Okay. Yeah, you said a whole lot there. I'm gonna boil it down to you really like this movie. Love it. Love it, love it. I will jump on board specifically with the CGI of Kong. I think they did a really good job with it. Even like the nighttime scene when he's on the boat and he's like Like you know, reaching out over to Gia. The subtle movements that he's making, he looks like he's moving slow or normal speed, but like the water that's coming off of his fur is just like misting, and it's it looks so realistic because that's how water would look on a a giant 300-foot monkey. I really thought like there were several moments where I was just like, wow, that's really good CGI. Um and I think they did really good with Oh, even in like the uh when he when they brought him over to Antarctica and like the snow matting on his fur.

SPEAKER_03 22:34

So good.

SPEAKER_02 22:36

It's it looks like my my dog after she rolls around in the snow. Like it that's exactly what snow looks like. Yeah, and it's impossible to get out. So that's that's definitely an interesting point. And also the um as far as like facial recognition and everything, Kong is historically someone who is an empathizable character. I don't think that's a word. Um but i the character is meant to be empathized with. His his very first appearance, I think it was in 1932, beating Godzilla to the screen by by like 15 years or so. His first appearance I don't know that actually. Yeah, no, King Kong was before Godzilla. And you know, it's the tragic tale of this giant monkey being brought to America, he climbs up the Empire State building, they attack him, and he falls to his death. And you know, it's not his fault that he's been paraded around the world, and he's still being paraded around the world, but they're doing it in this movie for different reasons, but they are definitely doing that, and that is definitely an homage to the origin of the character, but there's always a a female character in every King Kong movie. I don't know if there is in Skull Island, I think they they moved away from that trope. But in the 70s, Kong Wasn't wasn't Bree Larson the But I don't think she had a special connection.

SPEAKER_03 24:05

No, he protected her. There was like a brief sequence where he ends up like protecting her.

SPEAKER_02 24:10

Oh yes, he does. Like she falls into the water and he erases her up. Yeah, I forget about that.

SPEAKER_00 24:14

I think that I I think that's um during the sequence where he's fighting the like skull monsters.

SPEAKER_02 24:19

The skull crawl.

SPEAKER_03 24:20

Yeah, but you can't I mean you can't blame him for helping Bree Larson, so I can't either.

SPEAKER_02 24:25

But yeah, so that's that's a trope when it comes to Kong as a character wanting to He likes the ladies? He likes the ladies. Uh I don't think it's a at least in this one, it's definitely not a romantic relationship. It's just like a mutual bond that he grows attached to with certain characters, and I I love the bond that he makes with Gia because Gia is a an interesting character in and of herself, just because she's capable of understanding so much more than people who actually have the ability to hear. And I think that that's really cool. What are your thoughts? You've been a you've been awfully quiet.

SPEAKER_01 25:04

Yeah, I just really enjoy these movies. I think they're really fun and simple. I see the criticisms that can obviously be made about them, but we Dakota and I split it up over two days just because I go to sleep really early nowadays. And this was one that I was actually really excited to go back and finish. Unlike the last one. The last one I was like, ah, King of the Monsters. Yeah, I was like, I have to go finish that one. Uh crap.

SPEAKER_02 25:30

King of the Monsters is it's so interesting because they they play it so serious and like end of the world-ish with the monsters, so it's very exhausting in a way, but the characters are such they're they're clown-ish. So it's a it's a mix of like, is this in a is this an end of the world movie or is this trying to be a comedy? It's it kind of bounces back and forth, but uh I think this movie plays it a little bit better.

SPEAKER_01 25:54

Yeah, I like this one so much more. Even though I feel like this one does the comedic stuff as well. Yeah, it does. Um, but I just think they do a better job of it. One thing that I thought was kind of weird, I guess, is like, especially for Millie Bobby Brown's character, that like all of the stuff that happened in the past just basically doesn't really I think they mentioned the mom like one time, if that, but it's just kind of like drops.

SPEAKER_02 26:21

Like everything was just dropped. It's like That is my main criticism, actually.

SPEAKER_01 26:24

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_02 26:25

Of of the movie. We didn't talk about this in advance. No, we never do. We don't meta podcasts. We don't meta podcast here. Liars not in this household. Um, we don't. No. In while we're watching the movie, I'll comment on like, oh yeah, this that looks really great. Or, you know, there's there was a scene where like they were on like the jet carrier and or the aircraft carrier on the ocean, and like you see the camera angle of like the guy in like a fighter jet cockpit, like zooming off, and and Kong's behind him, like just like yelling, and it's it's such a cool shot. I love stuff like that. So I I say it out loud. But my biggest criticism with the movie is Millie Bobby Brown's character because it does feel like it could an entirely different it could have been an entirely different role, and nobody would know any better.

SPEAKER_01 27:08

Yeah, it's just like it's not even I don't know, they didn't really develop what they already had, they just were like, let's scrap it and make her edgy.

SPEAKER_02 27:16

She still has the in with Monarch, but she's more interested in this guy's podcast. Which doesn't I mean I get it. You're you it's it's an exciting, you know, Titan-based podcast, but like, you know, you actually have a dad who's a director of Monarch who probably goes on crazy adventures all the time. So I there's a kind of a weird disconnect there, but I really well did she have an end with Apex though?

SPEAKER_03 27:40

No, that was just Bernie.

SPEAKER_00 27:41

It was just Bernie and I think that that that was her thing, was that there was something going on with Apex and she wanted to know more.

SPEAKER_02 27:50

Yeah. I agree. Yeah, no, I know that like look, I I get that there is like a rational reason for her or a story reason for her to like get involved with Bernie and all them and go on this adventure, and I'm happy that they did. Because I I do kind of ad I I kind of like the adventure that they go on. I just think it's uh it doesn't really fit the character that was portrayed in the last movie. That's that's my my my main issue with that.

SPEAKER_01 28:17

For me, it's like if you're gonna have a character carry over into the next movie, maybe develop some of the things we already learned about her. I don't know. I just feel like there were no kind of references to uh I don't know, the fact that her brother died or her mom died or a sacrifice or the yeah, the orca, like any there was no tiebacks or callbacks to like and not like I'm not just saying like a simple callback, but I'm saying like at some point in the development of the f of the character in the arc of the character, why was nothing brought up again?

SPEAKER_02 28:51

What do we think about the character Tapwater?

SPEAKER_00 28:55

Uh you mean her friends you're talking about um Firefist?

SPEAKER_02 29:00

Firefist, yes, there it was. The kid is the cutest.

SPEAKER_00 29:02

Is this considered a Marvel movie with him in it? I think so, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:06

What I love about whenever this kid's in a movie is they make him a uh just an absolute gangster. Well, they they don't tell him to get rid of his accent. That's something that is like crucial to this kid being on screen. They need him to keep his Kiwi accent as long as possible, and it adds something, it adds like texture to the character. Like he is somehow more exotic because of that, and it's just he's a pleasure to see on screen whenever he's on screen. Yeah. I loved when uh Bernie just ragged on him for being Tapwater, but he was the one who coined the term mecha godzilla. So he he got his.

SPEAKER_01 29:47

I thought that line was so cheesy. That was so cheesy. See is like, no, that's mecha godzilla.

SPEAKER_02 29:55

Now, do you think the rule should have been reversed where it was like Bernie said? No, that's mecha.

SPEAKER_03 30:00

It's gotta be the Kiwi, buddy. It's gotta be the Kiwi.

SPEAKER_02 30:02

Oh, okay, alright, alright, alright.

SPEAKER_00 30:03

Yeah, yeah, no, it it was definitely um him. But you're right, I do like when he gets ragged on about the tap water uh when he's like, Oh, I drink tap water, he's like, Yeah, I got that.

SPEAKER_03 30:14

You see, I'm not gonna lie to you, in all these movies, uh, the only human character that I ever I mean, other than Bree Larson, that I ever cared about was John C. Riley. Everybody I forgive everybody. I don't know, man. Because you know what? You know who I wanna see? I want to see John C.

SPEAKER_02 30:33

Riley?

SPEAKER_03 30:34

Kong. I want to see Godzilla. When that's all I I just watch the other stuff and I just wait for those guys to come back, man. I like like you said, like I just get so happy like in the snow, like right? Like I've watched it three times, maybe four times now. Actually, I think I watched it four times. Um and mind you, I've been also watching like six seasons of Sopranos in the last couple weeks, like, but I just can't stop re-watching these movies. I've downloaded them, it's not even I'm not even watching them streamers anymore. Like now, like you can ask Jen, like I'm just rando watching them in the middle of the day. People are walking into the room. I have 15 minutes. I'm like, let me go watch some Kong. Like, I want to see some Kong. Like, I don't know. I like the characters because their vehicle to get me to Kong and Godzilla, right? I don't care what they say. What they say is stupid. That whole end of the world and purging and you know, in the last one, that was dumb, you know? Like this idea is pretty stupid. Go into the Hollow Earth and they can only follow a Titan through, and it's nuts. The whole axe and the fact that Kong can somehow like magically like access this throne room that he's never been in before, and that works. Yeah, man, sign me up. Like, I don't know. I don't know why. Because if this was anything else, guys, I promise you, I would eviscerate it. I would tell you how stupid it is, how much I dislike it, but there's something about these two guys, these two big boys on the screen, that maybe it's just a wrestling match for me, but it's oh, sign me up any day. They could make 90 of these, and I won't stop watching them. Right? Khan goes to the bodega. I don't care. Anything would entertain me about these guys.

SPEAKER_02 32:17

Like I'd like I love how eloquently you ha are just waxing poetic about this movie. I actually I really appreciate that. I'm happy that you were enjoying them as much as you are. And speaking about vehicles to these characters, we have a vehicle that is also a character in this movie. And that would be Mechagodzilla. And I think that they did him really interesting, you know, like they used the severed head of Ghidorah, or one of the severed heads of Ghidorah, as like a neural link into the mind of a Titan, and that basically when powered to the point where it needed to be powered, you know. Oh, that that's another really stupid thing. Like, how were they able to send the new power source so quickly back up to I know, I know, I know. That is an actual issue.

SPEAKER_03 33:08

Actually, it's the same. So, do you remember in Superman how quickly Luther was able to translate the Kryptonian message? That same scientific team is actually the one that's at work here. So that's why the turnover was so quick.

SPEAKER_02 33:24

You're killing me. Um, okay, no. But once they were able to get that power source to Mechagodzilla, the novelization of this said it a lot better. Like they made a much bigger arc out of this, where Ghidora basically took over the mind of Ren Sarazawa, the son of monarch director Sarazawa. Which they don't actually say in the movie, but like his whole goal in the book, uh, Ren, the son, was basically that like his father loved Godzilla more than him, or spent more time like researching and like chasing Godzilla than he did like his own son. I'm starting to think that's rich with Kong. It might be. Honestly. That like he treated Ren treated Godzilla as like an older brother that he wanted to kill. And that was his motivating factor for getting into the Mechagodzilla I guess control room and then operating the suit, which eventually fried his mind when Mecha Godzilla went primal.

SPEAKER_03 34:24

So I buy it. I understand. Honestly, like my family's not around. If you told me I could go to Hollow Earth and hang out with Kong, but I couldn't get back. I don't know, guys. I'm not sure. Like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 34:39

Rich would go and then just get eaten by one of those minor monsters within like the first day. You know what? No, it would be the it would be this flower plant little dude.

SPEAKER_03 34:47

The flower plant that ate the one guy. Is that this that yeah, that's this franchise, isn't it? The uh they're like on a plant, there's like uh they're maybe I'm skipping ahead. I'm gonna stop talking. Never mind.

SPEAKER_00 34:58

But yeah, it gets Wait are you talking about? Um I think you're thinking of Predator Badlands.

SPEAKER_03 35:04

It's like Predator Badlands, but it's in this franchise. But I I may be jumping the gun, guys. I've been watching a lot of these movies. Uh but yeah, no. I would definitely try to find Kong, like I would be desperate to find him, uh, and then I would get killed on the way.

SPEAKER_01 35:19

So be like how they were at the end of the movie, like, oh, he's on his morning walk. Let me go try and talk to him. And he would try to befriend Kong, and Kong would just ghost him. Like Kong would just ignore him.

SPEAKER_03 35:30

Like Kevin Parker.

SPEAKER_01 35:31

But uh, that's what I was thinking of.

SPEAKER_02 35:34

Speaking of Hollow Earth, I feel like that's a really interesting avenue that's opened up in this film. Again, it's one of those things that like the novelizations do such a better job of like exploring, like just the mechanics of it all. But what they give you in the movie is enough to like get you to understand the concept, basically. And from this point, the Hollow Earth is hugely pivotal to the monster verse. You know, they they tease it a little bit at the end of King of the Monsters, like in some of the uh in some of the like the newspaper clippings that they have at the end, but it's not until this movie that they really jump into that like full steam ahead, go into Hollow Earth, and then in the next movie, most of it takes place in Hollow Earth. You have what's happening in the the monarch shows, it kind of revolves around a plane of Hollow Earth for a good portion of it, and there's just so much uh storytelling potential with this new realm, basically. So, what I really think is interesting is the world building here, because you have a place like Skull Island, which is where Kong lives, which is where all these crazy giant creatures exist. And within like the comics and and the ancillary lore of the monster verse, we have learned that uh Skull Island is one of these places where monsters have come out of Hollow Earth to kind of populate that local island of Skull Island. And part of the reason why Skull Island was like constantly in storm. Actually, that's that's so I I think I gotta like take a step back. But like in the beginning of the movie, did you guys notice that Kong was in containment and they didn't really explain it?

SPEAKER_01 37:28

Yeah. I thought I missed something.

SPEAKER_02 37:30

It's kind of annoying that they don't explain it because it's actually really cool lore. But basically, in King of the Monsters, Ghidorah creates like an Everstorm. And for whatever reason, this Everstorm goes over uh Skull Island and just torments Skull Island for like years. So they build a big containment around Kong and like all of the indigenous life outside of Gia is killed. So like she's the last of her kind. Oh, that's the storm that kills the Ewe. Yes. I think they explained it in the next movie.

SPEAKER_03 38:03

I forget. And they made it seem in this movie like it was a passing storm, not that it was like the star version.

SPEAKER_02 38:12

But for whatever reason, this storm also messed up the vortex that went into Hollow Earth, so they could not travel into Hollow Earth through this way. So it's kind of that's why they had to go somewhere else to Antarctica and everything. That's kind of the catalyst for the movie, but they I wish they would have explained that better in the actual movie because why was Kong in a containment field and why was there a storm outside? And I feel like that's uh important stuff to know.

SPEAKER_03 38:39

I figured it was El Nino. I honestly thought it was like El Nino or something. I was like, oh, bad storms, El Nino. That's what happens.

SPEAKER_01 38:46

I felt so bad for Kong, because like you know he's from a tropical environment, and then they just like move him to Antarctica. And it's kind of like I think of like when my Puerto Rican grandmother moved to New York, like her first winter. Brutal. Same. Like Anthony, when you moved from Miami to New York, that must have been rough, like rough winter.

SPEAKER_02 39:05

That's like actually was a crazy winter that one.

SPEAKER_01 39:08

Poor Anthony is from Miami, and then he's just like he knows what Kong feels like.

SPEAKER_00 39:12

No, that that that blizzard on on the way down was insane.

SPEAKER_02 39:16

Yeah, we uh my dad decided that we were gonna go drive down from New York to Florida for a trip, and Anthony and I were in the back of a Prius, an old Prius at that point, and we get a crazy blizzard, trees are falling down, like Ford F-150s are like like driving off the side of the road, getting caught in dishes ditches, and our little Prius traveling 15 miles an hour for like must have been like five hours through this storm, just completely trekking, and every couple miles we'd have to get out and like start like pushing the car so that it would it could maintain speed. Insane, insane character building, insane exercise.

SPEAKER_01 40:01

But anyway, that's only Millie Bobby Brown had experienced something similar in this movie. A little character development.

SPEAKER_02 40:06

She needed to push she need to push a Prius that that maglev thing. She needed to push that into the the tunnel that took them to China.

SPEAKER_01 40:14

That's not like that wasn't Anthony's environment. Like, that's not where he was supposed to be, much like Kong in Antarctica.

SPEAKER_02 40:20

Yeah. Let's talk a little bit about Godzilla. We we keep kind of skirting about the the big guy. Gojira.

SPEAKER_03 40:26

Thank you.

SPEAKER_02 40:26

What are what are your thoughts, Anthony, specifically about like his rampage with the apex facility? And like did that did that work for you?

SPEAKER_00 40:36

To be honest, like I don't even remember why he was rampaging on the apex facility.

SPEAKER_03 40:41

Was it what was it that he was they were picking up Ghidorah's like essence there or the uh lizard monsters like eggs were in that facility before they were sending them to Hong Kong, I believe.

SPEAKER_02 40:56

I think you're both touching on a point. I mean, I think you're both incorrect.

SPEAKER_01 41:02

Uh wait, wasn't like Mecha Godzilla like putting out like vibrations? Why didn't we all think something completely different? Because they kept showing that like red circle thing that was like putting out a vibration.

SPEAKER_02 41:18

We were basically calling Godzilla to Pensacola so that he could destroy a place, basically, so that this company Apex would be able to get the backing, both uh militarily and financially, to enter Hollow Earth and get a new source of energy. That was their goal was to basically trick Godzilla into attacking a human settlement unprovoked.

SPEAKER_01 41:42

They were setting him up. Oh, it's like a red herring.

SPEAKER_03 41:44

Alright.

SPEAKER_01 41:45

He was picking up good vibrations.

SPEAKER_03 41:47

He was picking up bad vibrations.

SPEAKER_01 41:49

Yeah. It was giving him the excitation.

SPEAKER_03 41:51

Is Marky Mark gonna show up on this podcast? I can't take it anymore. Hey Ramley. That's how your mother for me.

SPEAKER_01 41:58

Wait, what?

SPEAKER_03 41:59

What? You're talking about good vibrations. That's Marky Mark.

SPEAKER_01 42:03

No, I'm talking, I'm quoting the Beach Boys, Rich.

SPEAKER_03 42:07

Oh. Sorry.

SPEAKER_01 42:08

That was rough.

SPEAKER_03 42:09

I really I really like Mark Wahlberg's music. Sorry.

SPEAKER_01 42:13

You ate too many hot dogs today. Um wait, can I say something? No. No. I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah. I love Godzilla. I love him so much. The way that Rich feels about Kong is how I feel about Godzilla. I love how little he cares. He's like Scarfaced in that one scene, like where he where Tony Montana is like in the restaurant and he's like, you need people like me. And he's like, I'm like, he's like, I'm the bad guy. He's like, I don't care. At one point, he's going through Hong Kong, or he knows he's like swimming in a canal or something, and he just like jumps up and like headbutts a bridge for no reason. Like there was it wasn't in his way. He just saw it and was like, in it. He's like goals, like villain goals.

SPEAKER_02 42:57

He's he's the kind of guy that like will step on your sandcastle and like push over your Lego set. Um he's like Stitch.

SPEAKER_00 43:05

I love Stitch. He's the kind of guy that'll vibe. He's the kind of guy that'll sit on um the on your left shoulder.

SPEAKER_02 43:13

What? Uh Anthony's like Anthony's quoting. Yeah, Dakota has like a he's describing he's describing a background that uh is superimposed, and it kind of looks like Godzilla's creepily sitting on my shoulder, but he's not.

SPEAKER_00 43:27

I did like the like C fight. I thought that was really cool. That was a cool fight.

SPEAKER_02 43:33

They did that really.

SPEAKER_01 43:34

I do I have a gripe with that fight. And Dakota didn't understand what I was talking about, but maybe one of our uh five listeners will empathize with me and see what we're doing. Yeah, there's at least six.

SPEAKER_02 43:43

Go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 43:44

There's dozens of them. I think there's seven. Um god, why did you so my issue, and this is not just with this movie, but it's like some movies I don't know if it's just like the visual effects team kind of tooting their own horn or what, but they do the This thing where there's like water fights, and then they'll put like little droplets of the water on the lens that like that we're looking through. I hate it so much. It always takes me out of the movie because I'm like, am I supposed to be in the mindset that there's like drones like hovering around this fight scene, and I am I am watch like you're now informing me, you're reminding me. And I I never lost this concept. I never thought I'm not on my couch right now watching this on TV. But why do you need to remind me of it? Like, what is the benefit?

SPEAKER_02 44:31

I feel like this is one of those unique issues that I will never notice.

SPEAKER_01 44:35

It drives me every time I see it, it drives me crazy.

SPEAKER_02 44:38

But I think you notice it, and I'm just just hear me, hear me out. Let me posit my theory. You notice it because you actually wear glasses, and in rain, that would actually bother you. Yes. But for me, I don't ever experience that outside of like a windshield.

SPEAKER_01 44:54

Why are you like 2020 vision moging me right now? Like I'm no, no, no, I'm just what? I'm sorry, I'm lying.

SPEAKER_02 45:05

But I'm I was trying to understand why it bothered you so much, and I think that might be it. Just because you immediately notice two other specs wearers here.

SPEAKER_03 45:13

Are you vision maxing right now? I don't understand.

SPEAKER_01 45:16

Yeah, Dakota's vision max.

SPEAKER_02 45:18

I just vision mobbed you, bro.

SPEAKER_01 45:21

It's like I would never understand such issues of the weak-eyed.

SPEAKER_03 45:26

Meanwhile, you're blind to the sun friend.

SPEAKER_01 45:28

You have a yeah, light eyes.

SPEAKER_02 45:30

Uh no, I I really am. Like as soon as I hit like a like white pavement and on like a at noon, I'm done.

SPEAKER_01 45:43

If Dakota's driving in the afternoon on a snowy day, like it's a hazard. Like he can't, his eyes start watering up. Everybody's like, oh, we hope that the baby has like blue or green eyes like Dakota. And I'm like, he's weak. He's pathetic. My dark, almost black eyes. I never have to wear sunglasses. I've evolved.

SPEAKER_02 46:02

Yeah, I hope he gets somewhere like like our baby. I hope he gets your color, but my vision. Full bareth, yeah. Yeah, because my vision's horrendous. He'll be unstoppable.

SPEAKER_01 46:13

Um do you see what I'm saying with the time to join the dark side? I do.

SPEAKER_02 46:19

Yeah, the three of you have glasses. Do you all experience this, or is this just a gen problem?

SPEAKER_03 46:24

I wear I take my glasses off a lot. Alright. Um, I do have to wa wear them when I'm watching a movie or TV. But um I don't know. You're not likely to wear them outside. I don't it's a quirk that doesn't really bother me. I don't think. It's just like, oh, it's like it's just something that I've accepted in filmmaking, I guess. Yeah, there's water. Like I watch Deadliest Catch. There's a lot of water because you know they But isn't that like actual water?

SPEAKER_01 46:48

That's not like a visual effect of fake water.

SPEAKER_02 46:50

How do you know Kong and Godzilla weren't throwing around real water? Let's be honest.

SPEAKER_03 46:54

Wait, are you trying to say that Hollow Earth isn't real?

SPEAKER_02 46:56

No, Rich, it's very real.

SPEAKER_01 46:58

Wait, Anthony, do you get what I'm saying or no?

SPEAKER_00 47:01

Well, I mean, I do understand the like when you get water on your your glasses, like that is a bit annoying because you're like, oh crap, now I gotta like clean it. Or like if it dries, it leaves like it it'll like leave um like a mark, and then you can always see it like with your glasses like right up on you. But like in a movie like with the with the water on the lids, I always see that as like an effect. Just uh I think that they're just trying to it's it's like an immersion tactic.

SPEAKER_02 47:29

It's like the same old pair of glasses, like nothing's changed, you know. It's in early film when people saw a train oh my god, shut up.

SPEAKER_01 47:39

You're drive towards the colour. He's coding Gilmore.

SPEAKER_02 47:43

They they thought it was a real thing. And this they're shut up. Um anyway, alright, let's let's jump back. We have been speaking about Kong uh and Godzilla, but like I think uh one point that is interesting is I think last week maybe. I don't know if he was even on the podcast. Maybe not last week, but anyway. I compared Kong to more of a dog and Godzilla to more of a cat in their mannerisms. And that was me. I compared them.

SPEAKER_03 48:18

Pretty sure that was Dakota.

SPEAKER_01 48:19

He play he took that from me. Okay. Okay, I if that's a case.

SPEAKER_02 48:22

He plagiarizes if I if I plagiarize you, then I'm sorry. But I I I think that that is actually a pretty accurate because Godzilla specifically, Godzilla has the countenance of just an angry cat. You know, like your cat. This is I think that's the point.

SPEAKER_03 48:36

I think that's the point you made. Like that was like your cat.

SPEAKER_02 48:39

Yeah, he's an angry little dude. Yeah. And another thing cats do is they'll just like fall asleep anywhere, and Godzilla is known for that. Um, he even like curls up like a cat in a place he's not supposed to in the next movie.

SPEAKER_01 48:51

I'm so excited for that scene, by the way.

SPEAKER_02 48:53

I love that scene. So great. And Kong is very I don't know, I don't know if Kong is necessarily a dog personality-wise. He's loyal. Well he's got that dog is definitely more he's more of a people's person. You know? I kind of appreciate that about him. He wants to be loyalty.

SPEAKER_03 49:10

He's a big softy, man. He's the best. He's a big softy. He's a good guy. I love him. I also I just want to point out one thing, I guess, maybe is a slight attraction from the movie. Okay. If you've been living with Kong for like what'd they say, like it's five years she was studying him or something on Skull Island?

SPEAKER_02 49:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 49:32

And you've got all these cameras set up and you've been watching and observing him for years. How did she miss the lessons? Like, how did she miss Kong and Gia? Like, there wasn't one time where she went over a video or was she like, no, I was there. It's cool.

SPEAKER_02 49:48

No, she knows that they like spent time with each other because like she had a doll that she gave to Kong and you know she saw Gia do this. So they definitely or she definitely knew that Gia had a relationship with Kong. And in the novel, they actually mention that their special relationship is likely because she is the last of her kind and he is the last of his kind. She recognizes that like these two individuals can't be separated.

SPEAKER_01 50:20

But this does kind of bring up a child services issue of like why were you leaving this very small child unattended with a giant monkey for so long?

SPEAKER_02 50:28

Yo, she's native. So hold on. She don't work on the same rules as you American girls.

SPEAKER_03 50:34

Do you have like a a limit on the size of the monkey that would be allowable for the child to stay with? So like if it was like a smaller monkey, would you be okay with it?

SPEAKER_01 50:42

I think like sea monkeys is where it starts and ends, really, for me. Because you said that's the only safe monkeys. This one's especially bad.

SPEAKER_02 50:50

What about like those little monkeys that have to wear diapers all the time? Like, are you okay with that?

SPEAKER_03 50:55

Like a capuchin?

SPEAKER_02 50:56

Actually, yeah, I'm okay with that.

SPEAKER_03 50:57

Like Marcel Tiny Monkeys. Capuchin? Yeah. Oh man.

SPEAKER_01 51:01

No, no, not him. I'm thinking of even smaller monkeys. Oh. There's like really there's like these little tiny monkeys. They're like this big. Like babu fricks that I would leave unattended with. Like little babu monkeys. Yeah, they're like babu fricks. They're really small. Like I would leave my child unattended with those monkeys, maybe. But then, you know, who knows what kind of business they'd be up to. Alright, who's the other one?

SPEAKER_00 51:21

They were probably the inspiration for those.

SPEAKER_02 51:26

Who were uh we know who Rich was rooting for. We know who I was rooting for. Yes. Uh Anthony, were you more of a Godzilla or Kong person in this one?

SPEAKER_00 51:36

Like, did you have a the the the creature that I was rooting for got chopped up in the end. Now I'm just kidding. Um Mecca? It's weird, like, because I like both characters, and I'm like, man, I I don't like I don't want one to like die, but I mean there was uh I would say a clear winner at the end.

SPEAKER_02 52:01

There was, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 52:02

Godzilla won that. He kicked Kong to Hollow Earth, you know. Uh I'm sorry, Rich.

SPEAKER_01 52:11

Is that that's not debatable, Rich. Yeah, that's not debatable.

SPEAKER_02 52:13

Like, I mean, you can pull the I do think Kong did get the upper hand on Godzilla at one point in the movie, and that's when that guy, I forget his name, he goes second round goes to Kong.

SPEAKER_03 52:26

So hold on. Oh yeah, yeah, hold on.

SPEAKER_00 52:29

It was a bad it was a back and forth, but like Godzilla won.

SPEAKER_03 52:32

Kong one. Kong, if it's not if it's not for Kong, right? Godzilla loses to like this Fugazi version of himself, right? And then he gets to move into the basement, and it's bigger than the entire surface. He's got more room, he's got no humans, he just gets to chill in his new house.

SPEAKER_01 52:52

Like he actually likes humans, so that's a down that's a con for a con.

SPEAKER_02 52:56

Alright. I I I see your your point, and I I don't think there's a winning.

SPEAKER_03 53:02

You know who's the winner? You know who the winner is? Us. We won. We won. Because we got to see this movie and we get to watch another one. And I can't wait. Actually, ladies and gentlemen, you guys don't know this, but um, we're actually going to record the next movie right after this. But Anthony, before we do that, I want to ask you one question.

SPEAKER_01 53:23

What did he say?

SPEAKER_03 53:24

When Mecha God was Mecha Godzilla was first like when Mecha Godzilla was first activated, he ripped a muto in half, didn't he? Like before he powered down, like he didn't have enough power. He like ripped this muto in half.

SPEAKER_02 53:39

And the skullcrawler?

SPEAKER_03 53:41

Oh, it was a skullcrawler, right? And then the juice, did you guys notice how that juice just was the green juice? Green juice, right? It was all over. And that just reminds me of Voodoo Rangers, Juice Force IPA, the official sponsor of our podcast.

SPEAKER_00 53:56

Well, actually, Rich, I'm gonna one-up you on that one, but I will say that is not our sponsor. Don't listen to him. He is just rambling on. But what about the part when Kong cuts off the arm of Mecha Godzilla and you saw like that oil?

SPEAKER_02 54:15

There's a lot of oil to remove from the streets.

SPEAKER_00 54:20

And he just kept on hacking at him and more and more juice, just uh incredible amount of juice.

SPEAKER_02 54:25

And like, yeah, no, I I couldn't agree more. And you know what else is juicy? Your five-star reviews. So, folks, back home, at work, wherever you are, be sure to stop, whatever you're doing, unless you're driving, and rate us five stars. Give us a five-star juicy review. Make sure you imagine how juicy your comment is, perhaps. I don't know, maybe. But anyway, uh we we hope you have in we we hope you've liked the podcast today, episode 165, and next week we are actually gonna be covering the next film in the Monster Verse, which is Godzilla vs. Kong, the new empire. And we're gonna figure out what this new empire is, and if it pertains to Hollow Earth, perhaps. Or Kong. Or Godzilla, perhaps? Probably not. But anyway. Uh we we do have a new Godzilla movie coming next year. Godzilla vs. Kong Supernova. And that's where they listen to Oasis, right?

SPEAKER_04 55:28

Nice.

SPEAKER_02 55:29

Not a champagne supernova. Um there's no ru there's no word that rhymes with champagne. I was gonna say something very witty, but then I realized I got nothing.

SPEAKER_01 55:40

Well, Kong gave it rhymed champagne with plain ones, so anyway.

SPEAKER_02 55:45

Yeah, next week we're covering Godzilla V. Kong the New Empire. And or no, no, it's not Godzilla V Kong, it's Godzilla X Kong. So it's actually they're teaming up. Yeah, so Godzilla Kong the New Empire, because the X is silent in like anime and everything. So they're they're using anime logic with the titling structure on this one. That that's sure to make Anthony a little happy. You know, like he it got him a little excited there. I I saw it in his, you know, he nodded his head in approval.

SPEAKER_00 56:16

The logic in this next one is definitely anime-esque. So it's we'll see.

SPEAKER_02 56:21

Absolute logic. Yeah, there's there's some definite power scaling in the next movie. So that'll be fun. But let's Roman Reigns, baby.

SPEAKER_01 56:30

Can I say one last thing? One last thing. Go ahead, please. One thing that irritated me about this movie, and I'm gonna say it super fast, and then we're just gonna end the podcast, is that when they were like all going to Hollow Earth, they all had these shiny like gold and black outfits. Everybody had them but the child. What was up with that? Like, why couldn't they give her one of their outfits? I don't understand ever like if I went on a team up when and like if we joined the podcast and you guys were all wearing matching shirts and nobody got one for me, I would be super offended and hurt. I would be really upset about that.

SPEAKER_02 57:02

And did you consider that she's too small for the matching shirts?

SPEAKER_01 57:06

I'm sorry, but they were like bajillion millionaires. Like they could have figured it out.

SPEAKER_02 57:09

Yeah, and the the suits didn't actually fit them that well. They weren't very Yeah, they were like baggy.

SPEAKER_03 57:13

Would you uh anyway say that to somebody who like it's maybe religious? Like she just didn't want like those her religious garbs, like she didn't want to- Isn't she wearing like a red hoodie though? Hoodies can be religious. You can't you can't tell me what her religion is.

SPEAKER_02 57:30

Uh the religious hoodie. Yes, alright, so next week, Godzilla Kong, the New Empire, and we have a very special two shows the following weeks. We're gonna be covering Dungeon Crawler Carl, part one of the first book in two weeks' time, and Dungeon Crawler Carl book two the week after. You mean part two part two part yeah, book one, part two. So we're we're gonna there's a there's a very clear breakoff point in around the halfway mark of the book where they go down to the second floor of the dungeon. So the the first week that we cover is just gonna be the first floor of the dungeon and learning about Carl and his cat, his ex-girlfriend's cat. Guys, thank you so much for listening to us here for episode one sixty five of Project Geekology. Bye, y'all.

SPEAKER_03 58:22

Bye.

SPEAKER_02 58:22

Bye.

SPEAKER_03 58:23

The Wolverine.

SPEAKER_02 58:25

You're actually wearing a Wolverine shirt.

SPEAKER_03 58:27

Yeah, it's great.